Sudin: When Manohar Parrikar used to speak, if you listen carefully, you could understand the issue. He explained all aspects. Digambar Kamat used to not talk at all. Secretaries used to do all the talking. What the secretaries used to talk, it would not reach (be understood) by the Cabinet. And because of this some uneducated people used to talk anything. I could not say anything at that time as I had taken an oath.